tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11760886.post3784106611319966471..comments2024-02-29T15:52:40.963-05:00Comments on chantblog: Epiphany Matins: Tria sunt munera ("Three are the gifts")blshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07627725321531151309noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11760886.post-80495436330896679442016-01-07T15:42:17.109-05:002016-01-07T15:42:17.109-05:00Someone expertly familiar with the Roman Office po...Someone expertly familiar with the Roman Office pointed out that <i>Tria sunt</i> is <i>also</i> not sung on the Sunday within the Epiphany octave (on which was celebrated the feast of the Holy Family). <br /><br />Even though Epiphany lost its octave after 1955 (I gather), <i>Tria sunt</i> remained the first responsory through the 12th, i.e. until the feast of Our Lord's Baptism celebrated on the 13th. Marc in Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331547981498637474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11760886.post-84102958118483602242016-01-07T11:28:34.630-05:002016-01-07T11:28:34.630-05:00Thanks, Marc; that's interesting. Something d...Thanks, Marc; that's interesting. Something definitely did happen at Trent as regards Epiphany, as I read elsewhere yesterday - but I haven't had the time yet to go through and figure out exactly what. Will get there eventually.<br /><br />It might be interesting, too, to take a look at older manuscripts to see what was happening in the era before Trent.<br /><br />Thanks again!blsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11760886.post-23775934155156547702016-01-07T08:56:44.265-05:002016-01-07T08:56:44.265-05:00Indeed it is the first responsory throughout the O...Indeed it is the first responsory throughout the Octave but not on the Octave itself, next week, through all the forms of the Roman office including the 1960 (according to divinumofficium.com), which is, if I've understood aright, what is called the 'extraordinary form' these days apart from some minor rubrical differences. Fascinating. Marc in Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331547981498637474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11760886.post-39410055605795783052016-01-07T08:46:53.166-05:002016-01-07T08:46:53.166-05:00Ha; I do suspect it has something to do with the R...Ha; I do suspect it has something to do with the Roman office preserving the more ancient form of the Epiphany office, the feast having an octave and then not having an octave, or the other way around-- it is all rather above my head really. But I will point out that the <i>Tria sunt munera pretiosa</i> is the first responsory <i>today</i>, the second day within the Octave (at least in the 1910 office that I use, at divinumofficium.com).Marc in Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331547981498637474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11760886.post-76177375676524020582016-01-06T18:51:39.789-05:002016-01-06T18:51:39.789-05:00Marc, thanks for commenting. Tribus miraculis is ...Marc, thanks for commenting. Tribus miraculis is indeed the antiphon on the Magnificat for Epiphany, even to this day. <br /><br />I've talked briefly about it on my Epiphany Office post - but I think it, too, deserves its own post. It's a beautiful chant. <br /><br />I'll take a look at the page you linked; thanks very much for that. <br /><br />And yes: the McMaster site is truly wonderful!blsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11760886.post-74997802404651592142016-01-06T18:47:58.074-05:002016-01-06T18:47:58.074-05:00Thanks for that link, Scott! I agree the processi...Thanks for that link, Scott! I agree the procession - and the chant - are incredibly beautiful. I believe I just may create a new post out of that video. Thank you very much for calling our attention to it.<br /><br />(I really quite liked that organ improv, BTW.....)<br /><br />blsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11760886.post-43707993507454559222016-01-06T16:14:52.640-05:002016-01-06T16:14:52.640-05:00And thanks for mentioning the McMaster's Sarum...And thanks for mentioning the McMaster's Sarum site, which I knew nothing about. Happy feast! and happy new year!Marc in Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331547981498637474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11760886.post-91554388856968423252016-01-06T16:09:03.208-05:002016-01-06T16:09:03.208-05:00Thanks very much for this post! I wondered if the ...Thanks very much for this post! I wondered if the <i>Tria sunt munera pretiosa</i> had somehow 'morphed' into the Magnificat antiphon <i>Tribus mirĂ¡culis</i> but that has apparently (based on the texts in Dr Kiss's-- r.i.p.-- divinumofficium.com) 'always' been the Magn. antiphon (different sets of three, anyway). I wonder if the history that Fr John Hunwicke describes today [http://goo.gl/CY8QRg] somehow accounts for <i>Tria sunt munera pretiosa</i> disappearing from the Roman Rite?Marc in Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331547981498637474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11760886.post-82572210128753403402016-01-06T11:11:25.650-05:002016-01-06T11:11:25.650-05:00Tria sunt munera is also sort of a fight song or a...Tria sunt munera is also sort of a fight song or alma mater at Cologne Cathedral, where I gather there are relics of the Magi. I'm sorry, but hearing the girls' choir sing this at the beginning of Mass makes me weep...just beautiful. They do this chant quite often; if not every Sunday, then most Sundays when there's a big procession like this:<br />https://youtu.be/PQ3BhlBj09M<br />The chant starts after an, um, energetic (but brief) organ improvisation.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06523262033055211718noreply@blogger.com